Posts by breakfast of champions

first off - for those lurkers who feel guilty just for being on this site and reading this (even if you don't read any further, as it is your right to choose that course) i want you to know that you're not alone in what you're going through or in what you are feeling.

if you read on, i hope my experience may be of some small help to you.. this may be long, but i'll try to organize it in a way that doesn't make it painful to read.

to start, i feel it is most beneficial if i'm upfront and honest with my goals from posting this, which are (in order of the degree to which they motivated me):.

breakfast of champions

Wow. Great post!

I can really relate to your story, down to the "final straw". . . .

As far as your wife, take your time, this isn't a race. At least you know TTATT when you're 29 instead of 49.

Plenty of good suggestions/advice/info here.

Welcome!

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An Interesting Legal Review Of Excommunication

by metatron in

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http://mormonmatters.org/2009/09/02/is-wrongful-excommunication-legally-redressable/.

guess who gets sued for excommunication issues more than anybody else?.

i am thinking about a legal aspect of excommunication that i have never seen challenged before - that is, in regard to published bylaws and the autonomy of individual churches (that are not part of a hierarchy).. i need to research it a bit more.. metatron.

breakfast of champions

Interesting.

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Anyone have the answer sheet for the TMS Review this week?

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just wondering.. my wife will be very impressed by "apostate power" if you can come through with this.

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breakfast of champions

WANNABEFREE - awesome! Thanks!

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Year Report for New Zealand out - 2% increase.

by skin in

can some one tell me why the last month of the service year (aug 07) has an almost 10% increase over the other months of this year?

july 07 had 12868 pubs, whereas aug 07 had 13852 pubs.

the same increase happened in the previous service year in the last month.

breakfast of champions

And remember, 0% "increase" really amounts to a ~1.5% decrease when you figure in born-ins.

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Anyone have the answer sheet for the TMS Review this week?

by breakfast of champions in

just wondering.. my wife will be very impressed by "apostate power" if you can come through with this.

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breakfast of champions

Just wondering.

My wife will be very impressed by "apostate power" if you can come through with this.

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Evolutionary psychology?

by Laika in

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i've read a little bit of work from the field of evolutionary psychology, but nearly all of this stuff comes across as pseudo-scientific bs to me.

much of this stuff just seems to me to be a case of preferring a particular human behaviour over another one, and then saying that this is what nature intended with a story about how it 'evolved'.

a lot of evolutionary psychologists also seem to use evolutionary psychology as cover for their misogyny or racism.. i think most of our behaviours are socialised rather than genetic.. i am hardly an expert here however so could, of course, be completely wrong.

breakfast of champions

COFTY - No. I can't - but I'm working on it! The more I know, the more I'll share. Anyway, I've chosen cog sci as my field of study, thus my bias.

I don't think evo/psy is trying to or can explain the "how" of the mind. It may have some answers for the "whys" but I think the "hows" are far more interesting (since no one really knows!).

OUBLIETTE - thanks! See my answer to COFTY. I'm still a "newb" to cog sci, but I'm at a great school with some great minds in the field with whom I can talk to face to face whenever I want. Pretty damn cool. Not an expert on Phil of sci, but we did discuss it to some degree in one of my cog sci classes.

Off to bed myself.

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Evolutionary psychology?

by Laika in

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i've read a little bit of work from the field of evolutionary psychology, but nearly all of this stuff comes across as pseudo-scientific bs to me.

much of this stuff just seems to me to be a case of preferring a particular human behaviour over another one, and then saying that this is what nature intended with a story about how it 'evolved'.

a lot of evolutionary psychologists also seem to use evolutionary psychology as cover for their misogyny or racism.. i think most of our behaviours are socialised rather than genetic.. i am hardly an expert here however so could, of course, be completely wrong.

breakfast of champions

COFTY - I'm with you about Gould, and I don't doubt the endeavors of researchers in the field of evo/psy. However, I think working from a cognitive perspective back to evolutionary theory will ultimately yield stronger results.

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Evolutionary psychology?

by Laika in

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friends

i've read a little bit of work from the field of evolutionary psychology, but nearly all of this stuff comes across as pseudo-scientific bs to me.

much of this stuff just seems to me to be a case of preferring a particular human behaviour over another one, and then saying that this is what nature intended with a story about how it 'evolved'.

a lot of evolutionary psychologists also seem to use evolutionary psychology as cover for their misogyny or racism.. i think most of our behaviours are socialised rather than genetic.. i am hardly an expert here however so could, of course, be completely wrong.

breakfast of champions

OUBLIETTE - good catch. Without good philosophy, good science is impossible.